Why Did God Order the Destruction of Nations?

A BBC documentary film on YouTube narrates how an Italian city called Pompeii was destroyed in the eruption of Mount Vesuvius in 79 AD killing inhabitants of the city. I commented on that video: “An evil and adulterous generation was destroyed by God”. Some religious folks – both Christians and Muslims thumbed my comment up which made some of atheist folks really angry. These atheist folks ganged up against me and started debating me on God’s justice. They claimed when Mount Vesuvius was erupted, it killed both good and evil inhabitants of the city. They claimed it’s not fair if a God kills the innocent people in a city because of the sin of sinful people in the city. Keep in mind that the topic of their debate with me was not whether God was a mythical character or not. The topic of their debate with me was whether the supposed mythical God the religious people believe in was just in the stories the scriptures narrate.

Below is my conversation with those atheists:

Matthew Willams: Not every person in Pompeii was evil and adulterous. You believe children are innocent, right? Did babies in their cradles deserve to die? Did unborn children of pregnant women deserve to die? Did innocent babies deserve to die because their parents screwed? Why would God kill off all of the innocent people with the evil ones? How is it fair? You believe God is fair, right?

Hu Wen: Death isn't the end of your existence. Death is the door to the other side. Good people desire death because life on the other side is better than worldly life for them. But bad people don't desire death because life on the other side is worse than worldly life for them. Kids that died will have a better life in heaven on the other side. Adulterous that died will have a worse life in hell on the other side. So stop complaining unless you are adulterer and scared to go to hell.

Richard Mahn: Do you really think all the babies in Pompeii deserved to die because their parents screwed around? Quit your faith before it harms you.

Hu Wen: Babies are considered innocents by religions because they are not old enough to commit sin. Atheists don't believe babies are innocent. So stop shedding crocodile tears for babies died in Pompeii. Atheists consider babies depended animals, BUT not innocent humans like religions do. Got that?

As i mentioned earlier, if a baby dies, s/he goes to heaven. Heavenly life is better than worldly life. And life in hell is worse than worldly life.

Your presupposition that death is a punishment for both good and bad people is wrong. Death is a reward for good people & punishment for bad people. Because good people go to heaven after death & bad people go to hell after death. When a natural disaster comes upon a village and takes away the lives of all villagers, it is good for righteous villagers and bad for sinful villagers. Because righteous villagers will enter heaven and sinful villagers will enter hell after their death. Thus, God accomplish two objectives by a single action. He rewards righteous villagers & punishes sinful villagers by sending a natural deserter upon them to end their lives.

The interesting thing is atheists don't deny that the death is the end of human sufferings on earth although they don't believe in afterlife. The secular Western world promotes euthanasia for terminally ill people or anyone who wants to commit suicide in the name of "Freedom to choose". The word euthanasia comes from the Greek: εὐθανασία (good death). Therefore, we see that even atheists praise the killing of human beings to end their sufferings.

We, religious people condemn euthanasia because we believe the God is the giver of life so he has the right to take away the life. I am not the giver of life so I can't take away your life. Hope that helps you understands religious view on it. Let me know if you have further questions.

Rob Bowes: I'm sorry to break this to you Hu Wen, but your brain is broken. you are proclaiming your happiness for the death of thousands. You cannot do anything to harm me for saying it and I will continue to say it until the day I die and don't meet your angry and vengeful version of God.

Hu Wen: You said to me: “You are proclaiming your happiness for the death of thousands”.  Let me tell you a true story, Rob. Once an atheist asked a Christian lady why she cried when her mother passed away when she believed her mother would go to paradise after her death which was a thousand times better than this worldly life. That atheist was smarter than you because he understood it was good for a righteous person to die rather than continue living in this miserable world, if the heaven really existed. Yes, I am happy for the death of righteous people (if there was any) of Pompeii because they will have better life after their death. Simultaneously, I am sadden by the death of righteous people (if there was any) of Pompeii because I will miss them. Let me help you understand how a person can be happy and sad at the same time. Let’s say a son is leaving his mother from a poor African country to the United States, the land of the opportunities. The mother is happy because her son will have a way better life in the United States. But at the same time she is sad because her son is going to leave her and she will miss her son’s presence.

I said death was good for good people. Why don't you go and ask a religious Christian if s/he is scared to die. s/he will say no because s/he believes s/he will meet Jesus in heaven and have a life there that is at least one thousand times better than this worldly life full of hunger, depression, crime, diseases, pollution, and this list continues forever but you still don't get it and scratch your head and ask “Why?”. Pathetic.

You said to me: “You cannot do anything to harm me for saying it and I will continue to say it until the day I die and don't meet your angry and vengeful version of God”. The time of your death is predetermined by God. You will not die a second before or after that. You should be sacred to die because if you are an atheist. Theists are not scared to die because they believe a thousand times better life in heaven is waiting for them on the other side. Hope this helps you to understand the religious viewpoint. Take care of yourself.

Was Prophet Mohammed a Robber?

Jim:  Prophet Mohamed was a bandit. He attacked innocent caravans and robbed their property in the Southwest of Medina.

John: You don't understand the definition of "rob", Jimmy. Rob doesn't mean "taking things from others". it means "taking things from others ILLEGALLY or UNLAWFULLY”. Meccans took the property of Muslims unlawfully. So it was lawful for Muslims to get their robbed property back. For example, let’s say a robber took your Smartphone away from you in the street at gunpoint yesterday. If you find that robber in the street tomorrow and take back your Smartphone from him at gunpoint, then it’s not robbery but justice.

Meccans (people of Mecca) robbed the property of Muslims & kicked them out of Mecca for accepting Islam. Then Meccans decided to sell the robbed property of Muslims to Syrians. So Meccans loaded caravans with robbed property of Muslims and started their journey to Syria.

The news reached Meccan Muslims in Medina who were previously robbed and kicked out of Mecca by Meccan pagans. Meccan companions of Prophet Mohamed who were robbed and kicked out of Mecca asked him for his permission to attack the caravans and get the robbed property back. Prophet Mohamed asked God whether he is allowed to permit his companions to retaliate. God reveled the following in response to Prophet Mohamed’s question: "Permission [to fight] has been given to those who are being fought, because they were wronged. And indeed, God is competent to give them victory" (Quran 22:39).

Prophet Mohamed asked of his Medinan companies to know their decision about whether to help their Meccan Muslim brothers to attack the caravans and getting the robbed property back. Prophet Mohamed’s Medinan companions replied-"We will not say to you as Jews said to Moses: “Go you and your Lord fight”. Instead we will fight on your right and on your left and in front of you and behind you." Upon hearing this, Prophet Muhamed’s face got bright with happiness.

God was pleased to hear this reply too. So God reveled the good news that he would reinforce Muslims with 1,000 angles ranks after ranks to fight thousands of Meccan soldiers who were guarding the caravans loaded with robbed property: "Remember when you called on your Lord for help and He responded to you: I will reinforce you with a thousand angels riding rank after rank" (Quran 8:9)

Thousands of Meccan soldiers equipped with advanced weaponries of that time confronted 313 Muslims. Muslims did not even have a sword for each of them, let alone any advanced weaponries. Moreover, Muslims didn’t have enough animals to ride on, so every two Muslims were sharing one camel back. But on the other hand, each of the thousands of soldiers was riding a horse by himself. Muslims were clearly outnumbered by infidels and had very few weaponries but they had full trust in God. Muslims were granted victory by God for not their numbers or weapons but their absolute trust in God. This battle is a historical proof of Prophet Mohamed’s prophethood.

Difference Between Western & Eastern Slavery

The difference between Western & Middle Eastern slavery:

Blond haired blue eyed white Europeans and Americans enslaved people because of their skin color. Arabs and Jews didn't enslave people because of their skin color.

The definition of middle eastern slavery:

Before Islam, Arabs used to enslave people based on financial debt regardless of skin color. In Islam, a slave = a bonded labour. Islam encourages Muslims to free slaves by paying off their debt or bonds payable.

How middle eastern slavery works:

In the past, if a debtor was unable to pay off the money he owes to a creditor, the debtor had to pay off his debt by physical labour. In this case, the debtor was called a slave. And the debtor had to work for the creditor till he paid off the money he owed by his physical labour.

Sales of Middle Eastern slaves:

The creditor had a choice to sell his bonds receivable in the market if he needed money, but not physical labour of the debtor. If the bond receivable was sold in the market, the debtor had to work for the purchaser or new holder of bonds receivable.

This is a common practice in even today's modern society. For example, if you borrow money from bank "A", then the bank "A" has right to sell your debt to bank "B". Once your debt is sold, you have to pay your debt to bank "B" instead of bank "A".

Note: Islam makes it obligatory for the creditor to pay for his slave’s (debitor’s) all basic needs, such as shelter, food, & clothing as long as the slave (debitor) work for the creditor to pay off his debt by his physical labour. Islam also makes it obligatory for the creditor to offer the debitor the shelter, food, & clothing that is the same quality of shelter, food, & clothing the creditor use for himself.

Narrated Al-Ma'rur: At Ar-Rabadha I met Abu Dhar who was wearing a cloak, and his slave, too, was wearing a similar one. I asked about the reason for it. He replied, "I abused a person by calling his mother with bad names." The Prophet said to me, 'O Abu Dhar! Did you abuse him by calling his mother with bad names You still have some characteristics of ignorance. Your slaves are your brothers and Allah has put them under your command. So whoever has a brother under his command should feed him of what he eats and dress him of what he wears. Do not ask them (slaves) to do things beyond their capacity (power) and if you do so, then help them.' " (Sahih al-Bukhari, 1:2:30)

Abortion in Islam

Question: Does Islam allow abortion? 

Answer: Abortion is illegal in Islam. God says-“And do not kill your children for fear of poverty. We provide for them and for you. Indeed, their killing is ever a great sin. And do not approach unlawful sexual intercourse. Indeed, it is ever an immorality and is evil as a way.” (The Glorious Qur’an 17:31-32) 

God mentions the two things that lead towards abortion: (i) poverty (ii) unlawful sexual intercourse (such as, adultery & rape). The eastern countries are insolvent and the western countries are solvent. The main reason for abortion in eastern countries is usually poverty. Many poverty stricken parents in eastern countries go for abortion because they believe they wouldn't be able to afford the child raising cost. 

On the other hand, the main reason for abortion in western countries is usually unlawful sexual intercourse. Children born out of unlawful sexual intercourse (sex outside of marriage, prostitution, etc.) are aborted in western countries.

The Quran has authority over Torah & Gospel

The Article:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6G7feyu2n-6YkNWTFc3ZHVwS0k/view?usp=sharing

Are Jews & Christians Saved?

The Article:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6G7feyu2n-6MDdLNUtSeUN3YTQ/view?usp=sharing

Appendix A:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6G7feyu2n-6c3YyM1BPbTlabG8/view?usp=sharing

Appendix B:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/14QB2QkDw6S201Mhgv8hJDHU_gln2IrGYR7bVuwhl2YY/edit?usp=sharing

Appendix C:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6G7feyu2n-6N29iUkhCYmViNlU/view?usp=sharing