29 August 2013
Corruption : Sharia Law
Atheist: Your holy book Koran is a violent book!
Muslim: Why do you say so, my friend?
Atheist: Have you read Koran? Chapter 5 verse 33 is full of violence!
Muslim: 5:33 is not a violent verse, my friend. Let me explain.
5:32- For that cause We decreed for the Children of Israel that whosoever killed a human being for EXCEPT FOR MANSLAUGHTER OR CORRUPTION in the earth, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saved the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind. Our messengers came unto them of old with clear proofs (of God's Sovereignty), but afterwards lo! but afterwards lo! many of them became prodigals in the earth.
Interpretation: God says Children of Israel were forbidden to kill a person except if that person commits manslaughter or corruption in the earth. God says Children of Israel disobeyed God by killing people who did not commit manslaughter or corruption in the earth.
5:33- The penalty of those WHO MAKE WAR UPON GOD AND HIS MESSENGER (=Those who spread corruption in earth) AND STRIVE AFTER CORRUPTION in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom;
Interpretation: What does making war upon God and his messenger mean? God uses "making war" and "spreading corruption" in a synonymous manner in this verse.
What does corruption mean? Corruption (Noun) = (i) Dishonest or fraudulent conduct by those in power, typically involving bribery. (ii) The action of making someone or something morally depraved or the state of being so. This verse mainly applies to rulers of an Islamic state. God's messenger Muhammad (God bless him) appointed governors for diffident provinces in Arabia. It was same as making war with God and his messenger if they (governors) disobeyed God's direct commend of not being corrupted.
What is the punishment for corruption in the earth? Death penalty for very serious corruption and amputation of hands and feet on alternate sides or expulsion for less serious corruption.
There are two prerequisites that have to meet for getting these penalties. These are: (i) making war upon God and His messenger (=spreading corruption in earth) (ii) striving after corruption in the land.
5:34- Except for those who REPENT before you before you have power over them. And know that God is FORGIVING and MERCIFUL.
Interpretation: God says if a ruler does not strive after spreading corruption in the land, rather surrender himself/herself before justice, that person will be forgiven (that person will not be sentenced). But if a ruler strives after spreading corruption and law enforcement units capture him/her, there is no pardon for that person (that person will be sentenced).
In conclusion, there is nothing wrong with sentencing CORRUPTED leaders for PEACE if they deny to REPENT.
Occupation & Oppression : Sharia Law
Atheist: Your Alla tells you to kill unbelievers wherever you find them!
Muslim: Who told you this, my friend?
Atheist: It's in Koran. Chapter 2, Verse 191!
Muslim: You got the wrong meaning of 2:191, my friend. Let me explain.
2-190: FIGHT in the way of God THOSE WHO FIGHT YOU but DO NOT TRANSGRESS. Indeed. god does not like transgressors.
Interpretation: God says to believers to fight those only who fight them. Also, God warns believers not to cross the moral boundary when fighting.
2-191: And KILL THEM wherever you overtake them and EXPEL THEM from wherever THEY HAVE EXPELLED YOU, and OPPRESSION IS WORSE THAN KILLING. And DO NOT FIGHT THEM at al-Masjid al- îaram UNTIL THEY FIGHT YOU there. But IF THEY FIGHT YOU, THEN KILL THEM. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.
Interpretation: God says to kill and kick the occupiers out from the land of believers because occupation and oppression are worse than killing. God says not to attack the occupiers first. God says believers are allowed to kill occupiers only if they do not stop the occupation and attack the believers first.
2-192: And IF THEY STOP FIGHTING, then indeed, GOD IS FORGIVING AND MERCIFUL.
Interpretation: In the previous verse God says to believers not to attack the occupiers first. In this verse God says he is merciful and will forgive the sin of occupiers if they stop fighting after they started.
2-193: And FIGHT them on UNTIL THERE IS NO MORE OPPRESSION, and there prevail justice and faith in God; but IF THEY STOP FIGHTING, LET THERE BE NO HOSTILITY except to those who practise oppression.
Interpretation: God says to believers to keep fighting until occupiers stop their oppression and justice prevails. In addition, God says to believers not to be unfriendly to occupiers if they stop fighting, let alone killing them.
In conclusion, there is nothing wrong with FIGHTING TERRORISTS and KILL them for PEACE if they deny to REPENT.
Muslim: Who told you this, my friend?
Atheist: It's in Koran. Chapter 2, Verse 191!
Muslim: You got the wrong meaning of 2:191, my friend. Let me explain.
2-190: FIGHT in the way of God THOSE WHO FIGHT YOU but DO NOT TRANSGRESS. Indeed. god does not like transgressors.
Interpretation: God says to believers to fight those only who fight them. Also, God warns believers not to cross the moral boundary when fighting.
2-191: And KILL THEM wherever you overtake them and EXPEL THEM from wherever THEY HAVE EXPELLED YOU, and OPPRESSION IS WORSE THAN KILLING. And DO NOT FIGHT THEM at al-Masjid al- îaram UNTIL THEY FIGHT YOU there. But IF THEY FIGHT YOU, THEN KILL THEM. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.
Interpretation: God says to kill and kick the occupiers out from the land of believers because occupation and oppression are worse than killing. God says not to attack the occupiers first. God says believers are allowed to kill occupiers only if they do not stop the occupation and attack the believers first.
2-192: And IF THEY STOP FIGHTING, then indeed, GOD IS FORGIVING AND MERCIFUL.
Interpretation: In the previous verse God says to believers not to attack the occupiers first. In this verse God says he is merciful and will forgive the sin of occupiers if they stop fighting after they started.
2-193: And FIGHT them on UNTIL THERE IS NO MORE OPPRESSION, and there prevail justice and faith in God; but IF THEY STOP FIGHTING, LET THERE BE NO HOSTILITY except to those who practise oppression.
Interpretation: God says to believers to keep fighting until occupiers stop their oppression and justice prevails. In addition, God says to believers not to be unfriendly to occupiers if they stop fighting, let alone killing them.
In conclusion, there is nothing wrong with FIGHTING TERRORISTS and KILL them for PEACE if they deny to REPENT.
God Says to Kill Polytheists
There are three groups of polytheists mentioned in chapter 9, verses 1-15. They are:
(i) A group fought wars against Muslims, and then made a peace treaty with Muslims, and then violated the peace treaty. God talks about this group in verses 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 13, 14 & 15.
(ii) A group fought wars against Muslims, and then made a peace treaty with Muslims, and did not violate the peace treaty. God talks about this group in verses 4 & 12.
(iii) A group that did not fight war against Muslims nor support Muslims in public. Instead they kept quit. God talks about this group in verses 7, 8, 9, 10 & 11.
God tells Muslims how to treat the first group of polytheists:
• God says he and his messenger canceled the peace treaty between Muslims & polytheists (See 9:1) because polytheists broke the peace treaty by attacking Muslims in the sacred months and deciding to expel the Messenger of God (See 9:13).
• Muslims are not allowed to fight in the sacred months. So, God tells Muslims to wait till the sacred months are over to answer the violation of peace treaty by polytheists. When sacred months are over, God tells Muslims to attack polytheists, kill them, and capture them (See 9:5).
• In addition, God tells Muslims not to harm 2 groups of polytheists during the war. The first group is who accept Islam (See 9:5). The second group is who seek protection and agree to hear the recitation of Quran in return for their protection. God tells Muslims to let the polytheists go free after the war who sought protection in exchange for hearing the recitation of Quran (See 9:6).
God tells Muslims how to treat the second group of polytheists:
• God tells Muslims to fulfill the peace treaty with polytheists because they did not violate the peace treaty so far (See 9:4).
• God tells Muslims that they do not have to bind themselves to the peace treaty if polytheists break the peace treaty in future. God tells Muslims to force polytheists to stop their aggression against Muslims if they violate the peace treaty (See 9:12).
God tells Muslims how to treat the third group of polytheists:
• God tells Muslims to be upright toward the polytheists as long as polytheists are upright toward Muslims (See 9:7).
• God tells Muslims to be careful about the polytheists because polytheists use their sweet talk and kinship to misguide Muslims. God says the hearts of the polytheists are against Muslims and they actually don't care about the kinship with Muslims. God says they will not hesitate to harm Muslims when they get a chance (See 9:8-10).
• God tells Muslims not to take polytheists as their brothers despite of their kinship with polytheists. God says the only time Muslims can take polytheists as their brothers if polytheists become Muslims (See 9:11).
In conclusion, God only orders to kill and capture a group of polytheists (not all polytheists) who fought war against Muslims, and then made a peace treaty with Muslims, and then violated the peace treaty by attacking Muslims. There is nothing wrong with killing and capturing your enemies in the battlefield for self defense.
References:
9:1- This is a declaration of cancellation of peace treaty from God and his Messenger, to those with whom you had made a peace treaty among the polytheists.
9:2- So travel freely, [O polytheists], throughout the land [during] four months but know that you cannot cause failure to God and that God will disgrace the disbelievers.
9:3- And [it is] an announcement from God and His Messenger to pilgrims that God and his Messenger is free from obligation to the polytheists. So if you [polytheists] repent, that is best for you; but if you turn away - then know that you will not cause failure to God. And give tidings to those who disbelieve of a painful punishment.
9:4- Except those of the polytheists with whom you made a treaty and have not broken the treaty with you in anything or supported anyone against you. So, fulfil the peace treaty with them. Indeed, God loves the righteous.
9:5- And when the sacred months have passed [when four months are over], kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they repent, establish prayer, and give obligatory alms [become Muslims], leave them alone. Indeed, God is Forgiving and Merciful.
9:6- And if any one of the polytheists seeks your protection, then grant him protection so that he may hear the words of God. Then escort him to where he can be secure. That is because they are a people who do not know.
9:7- You do not have any peace treaty with polytheists except those polytheists with whom you made a treaty near the Sacred Mosque. So as long as they [polytheists] are upright toward you, be upright toward them. Indeed, God loves the righteous.
9:8- You do not have peace treaty with polytheists with whom you did not make a treaty near the Sacred Mosque. If polytheists prevail against you, they will not respect neither the blood relation you have with them nor the promise of protecting each other. Their lips are on your side but their hearts are against you. Most of them are wrongdoers.
9:9- They [polytheists] have exchanged the signs of God and averted [people] from His way for their personal gain. Indeed they are evildoers.
9:10- They [polytheists] do not respect their family ties with the believers nor promises of protection. They are transgressors.
9:11- But they [polytheists] repent, establish prayer, and give obligatory alms [become Muslims], they would be your brothers in the religion. We explain Our revelations to people of knowledge.
9:12- Fight against the leaders of the polytheists if they violate their established peace treaty with you and revile your faith. Force them to stop their aggression against you. You do not have to bind yourselves to the treaty if they violate it.
9:13- Would you not fight a people who broke their peace treaty with you and determined to expel the Messenger, and they had begun [the attack upon] you the first time? Do you fear them? But God has more right that you should fear Him, if you are [truly] believers.
9:14- Fight them. May God punish them by your hands, humiliate them, give you victory over them, and delight the hearts of the believers.
9:15-and appease their anger. God accepts repentance from whomever He wants and He is All-knowing and All-wise.
Adultery & Rape : Sharia Law
Hierarchy of authorities of Sharia Law:
1) Quran
2) Hadith
3) Scholars
The method of checking the authenticity of a Hadith:
1) If a Hadith goes against the Quran, Muslims do not follow that Hadith (The chains of narration of that Hadith don't count).
2) If a Hadith matches with Quran, Muslims follow that Hadith (The chains of narration of that Hadith count).
3) If Quran says to do a task not mentioning how to carry that out and Hadith says to do the same task mentioning how to carry that out, Muslims follow the way that Hadith says to carry that out (The chains of narration of that Hadith count).
4) If Quran is silent about what a Hadith says, Muslims follow that Hadith (The chains of narration of that Hadith count).
Quran doesn't say to kill adulterers and rapists. Therefore, Muslims don't accept Hadith that go against Quran about the punishment of illegal sexual intercourse. Quran says-"The woman and the man guilty of illegal sexual intercourse, flog each of them with a hundred stripes. Let not pity withhold you in their case, in a punishment prescribed by God, if you believe in God and the Last Day. And let a party of the believers witness their punishment" (Quran 24:2). It's clear in the Quran that illegal sexual intercourse (adultery, rape, etc.) is punished by 100 stripes, not by stone to death penalty.
How do we know that Hadith that contradicts Quran isn't authentic? Quran says-" This is the Book about which there is no doubt, a guidance for those conscious of God" (Quran 2:2). It's clear from this verse that Quran is authentic. Therefore any Hadith that contradicts Quran is unauthentic.
What is the proof that prophet Muhammad (sw) didn't disobey Quranic Law when judging people & giving sentences? Quran says-"Most surely, it is the Word brought by an honored Messenger [Mohammad], And it is not the word of a poet; little do you believe. Nor the word of a soothsayer; little do you remember. [This is] a revelation from the Lord of the worlds. And if he [Mohammad] had fabricated against Us some of the sayings, We would certainly have seized him by the right hand, Then We would certainly have cut off his aorta." (Quran 69:40-46)
Quran also says-"Whenever Our authoritative revelations are recited to those who do not wish to meet Us in the life hereafter, say, "Bring us another book besides this one or change it." (Muhammad), tell them, "I cannot change it myself. I ONLY FOLLOW WHAT IS REVEALED TO ME. I fear that for disobeying my Lord I shall be punished on the great (Day of Judgment)" (Quran 10:15). It is clear from these verses that Prophet Muhammad (sw) is unable to change the message of Quran or act against Quran. Therefore, any Hadith that says Prophet Muhammad (sw) gave sentences that went against Quran is unauthentic.
Why God Sends Good People to Hell?
Atheist: Why would God send good people to hell just because they don't believe he exists?
Muslim: Before I answer you, tell me what you understand by believing in the existence of God.
Atheist: Believing in the existence of God simply means believing God exists.
Muslim: No, my friend. Its meaning is broader than you think. Believing in God means believing in the divine revelation God sent. And believing in the divine revelation God sent means to follow God's commandments. The question you should have asked is -- "Why would God send good people to hell for not following his commandments?"
Atheist: Okay, tell me why God send good people go to hell if they don't follow his commandments?
Muslim: God doesn't send good people to hell, my friend. What makes a person good? Following God's commandments makes a person good.
Atheist: Wrong! Doing good works makes a person good.
Muslim: God only commends us to do good works. Therefore, following God's commandments makes a person good.
Atheist: Wrong! God commends people to do a lot of bad things.
Muslim: For example?
Atheist: God commends to murder men, rape women, kill homosexuals, and so on.
Muslim: You're talking about Bible, my friend. I'm a Muslim. Quran never commends us to kill and rape innocent people.
Atheist: Okay, but why do we need God to make a list of good works and order us to do them when we know what the good works are?
Muslim: People always differ about good works, my friend. Therefore, we need God to make a list of good works and order us to do them. For example, God said prostitution was bad. Some people did not believe God and started prostitution. Eventually the understood God was right when they got HIV/AIDS.
Atheist: But I do not believe God exists.
Muslim: You may call God a mythical being but you have to admit that mythical being is just and fair.
Prove to Me that God Exists
Atheist: Do you believe that God will send disbelievers to hell?
Muslim: Yes, I do.
Atheist: But what if someone sincerely disbelieve in God?
Muslim: It sounds like an oxymoron. Honesty is a good thing but disbelieve in God is a bad thing. If proof of God rests in front of your very eyes, I don't think you can say you "honestly" disbelieve in god.
Atheist: Ok, prove God to me.
Muslim: Quran is the proof of God.
Atheist: Koran? Are you serious? How can a book be the proof of God?
Muslim: Quran is the message from God to mankind. God says: "O mankind, worship your Lord, who created you and those before you, that you may become righteous" (Quran 2:21). If Mr. John doesn't exist, he wouldn't send you a message saying I'm Mr. John and you should do this and that. God's message "Quran" proves God's existence.
Atheist: Your holy book claims God exists. Your holy book isn't the proof of God. Claim is not equal to proof. Claims require proof. People wrote Koran, not God. Because God is a non-existent being.
Muslim: Quran says-"That is the determination of the Mighty, the All-Knowing" (Quran 6:96). God says he is all knowing so he can't give us misinformation. Prove that men wrote Quran by finding an error in that. Why don't you find me a scientific error in Quran? I heard that science is the favourite topic of atheists.
Atheist: So what if there is no scientific error in Quran? Absence of scientific errors in Quran doesn't prove it's from God or God exists. There are so many science books out there that contain no error.
Muslim: Quran was revealed 1,400 years ago. Find a 1,400-year-old science book that contains no error. It is not a miracle if a modern science book contains no error. But it is indeed a miracle if a 1,400-year-old book contains no scientific error. Quran said things 1,400 years ago that modern science has discovered recently.
Atheist: I heard that claim made by Muslims before. Quran writers copied scientific information down from Ancient Greeks scientists.
Muslim: Ancient Greek scientists said so many things that have been proven wrong by modern science. On the other hand, Quran said so many things but not a single of them have been proven wrong my modern science. This is enough proof that Quran didn't copy from ancient Greek scientists. Quran must have contained errors if it copied from ancient Greek scientists. God says-"Then do they not reflect upon the Qur'an? If it had been from [any] other than God, they would have found within it much contradiction" (Quran 4:82).
Atheist: It doesn't matter what you say, I will never believe God exists.
Muslim: Quran talks about people like you who reject the truth after witnessing the clear signs from God: "They are deaf, dumb, and blind, so they return not (to the right path)". [2:18]
Salvation in Islam
Non-Muslim: If following Quran is the way to salvation then what would happen to the people who have lived and died never having heard of the Quran? How will they be judged since they had no obligation of following the Quran?
Muslim: God says-"And for every nation, there is a Messenger; when their Messenger comes, the matter will be judged between them with justice, and they will not be wronged." (Quran 10:47)
God also says-"Say, "Whoever is an enemy to Gabriel - it is he who has brought the Qur'an down upon your heart, [O Muhammad], by permission of God, confirming previous scriptures before it and as guidance and good tidings for the believers." (Quran 2:97)
God sent his messengers in every age before there was no Quran. Quran confirms previous scriptures (Torah, Zabur, Gospel, etc). The message of Quran & previous scriptures are same). Therefore, no people actually have lived and died never having heard of the Quran.
Non-Muslim: If the message of Quran and previous scriptures are same, can salvation be attained by following previous scriptures?
Muslim: Whenever a previous scripture was corrupted by people, God sent a new scripture. Quran only confirms the uncorrupted portions of the previous scriptures. The portions of previous scriptures that match with Quran are uncorrupted. The portions of previous scriptures that do not match with Quran are corrupted. In addition, Quran covers some additional topics that are absence in previous scriptures. Therefore, salvation cannot be attained by following previous scriptures even though Quran confirms previous scriptures.
God says-"Therefore woe be unto those who write the Scripture with their hands and then say, "This is from Allah," that they may purchase a small gain therewith. Woe unto them for that their hands have written, and woe unto them for that they earn thereby" (2:79).
Non-Muslim: What will happen if people corrupt Quran? Will God send another scripture to correct the corrupted parts in Quran?
Muslim: God says Muhammad (God bless him) is the last prophet who came with the last scripture (Quran) from God. God says-"We have without doubt, sent down the message and We will assuredly guard it from corruption". (Quran 15:9)
Since Quran is the last scripture sent by God, God makes sure that no one can corrupt Quran. God says-"Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but (he is) the Apostle of God, and the Seal of the Prophets: and God has full knowledge of all things." (Quran 33:40)
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