Peter
and Abdullah had an email conversation on the topic whether men are more intelligent
than women or not. Below is the highlight of this conversation –
Peter: In
Islam, a female witness’s testimony counts half of a male witness’s testimony
because women are considered less intelligent than men. Do you support such an
anti-feminist view of your religion?
References:
“…And Call two of your men to be witness. If you
don’t have two men, then call a man and two women of your choice to be witness
so that if one woman goes astray, then the other woman can remind her. ….”
(2:282)
"[Muhammad] said, 'Is not the evidence of two
women equal to the witness of one man?' They replied in the
affirmative. He said, 'This is the deficiency in her
intelligence.'" (Sahih Bukhari 6:301)
Abdullah: The Quran 2:282 says – “O you who
believe! When you contract a debt for a fixed period, write it down….And Call
two of your men to be witness. If you don’t have two men, then call a man and
two women of your choice to be witness so that if one woman goes astray (تَضِلَّ),
then the other woman can remind (فَتُذَكِّرَ) her. The witness must not refuse
to testify when their testimony is needed….” (The Quran 2:282)
The Quran 2:282 says to get two male witnesses for a
long term debt contract. But if two male witnesses are not available, then it
says to get three witnesses (a male witness and two female witnesses). Also,
the Quran says once a witness signs the contract, he/she should not refuse to
testify his/her witness on a later date if there is a disagreement about the
contract between the debtor and the creditor.
The Quran 2:282 says a woman’s testimony counts half
of a man’s testimony when it comes to serving as a witness of a fixed period
debt contract between two third parties. But note that a woman’s testimony
doesn’t count half of a man’s testimony in all situations. For example, the
Quran 24:4-9 says a woman’s testimony is equal to a man’s testimony when it
comes to defending oneself as a defendant against the allegation of adultery made by
a second party (Quran 24:4-9). For more detail, read my post named "Court Trial for Adultery" or click on the link below to be directed to the post -
Note that a couple do not call others to witness when they decide to commit adultery. Adultery may have accidental witness or no witness. This is why God says in the Quran 24:4-9 that it is okay if plaintiff and defendant do not have witness. If plaintiff John claims that the defendant Sarah committed adultery with Paul on Sunday 21st at 4:00 PM in a cottage, then the defendant Sarah can bring Mary as her witness who will testify that the defendant Sarah was with her on the above mentioned date and time. Therefore, the accession of committing adultery with Paul in a cottage on the above mentioned date and time is false. But it is okay if defendant Sarah is not able to bring Mary as her witness. Defendant Sarah’s testimony counts equal to John's testimony.
Women are more gullible than men in
general. Women trust others too easily, and are thus often misled. Emotion
plays a very important role in trusting others. Women are more emotional than
men in general. Maybe this is why the Quran says to get two female witnesses so
that if one goes astray (تَضِلَّ), then the other can remind (فَتُذَكِّرَ) her.
Note that the Quran doesn’t say a woman will make a mistake for sure when serving as a witness. The Quran says “IF one woman makes
mistake” implying a possibility of that.
Does being more gullible due to emotion make
women inferior to men? Of course not. Scientists have found that women are better than men at
many things, such as raising children, taking care of elderly and sick, having
extensive love and pity, taking care of one-selves, and so on. Do these make
women superior to men? Of course not. God has given men and women distinct
qualities but these qualities are not the indicators of one’s superiority over
others. The Quran says both men and women are equal in the eye of God:
"And whoever does righteous deeds, whether male or female, while being a
believer - those will enter Paradise and will not be wronged, [even as much as]
the speck on a date seed" (The Quran 4:124).
Islam neither favours nor disfavours women by counting women’s witness half of men’s witness. Do I favour women if I count women’s physical strength half of men’s physical strength in a wrestling competition and let two women fight against a man? I think I am not favouring women here, instead I am doing what is right. Women supporters who believe men and women have equal physical strength should be happy about my decision of letting two women fight against a man. This is because if men and women have equal physical strength, then it is an advantage for two women to fight against one man. The Quran 2:282 talks about intellectual fighting, not physical fighting. Debtor’s witnesses will intellectually fight creditor’s witnesses and lawyers in the court. Islam makes it right by letting two women intellectually fight against one man.
Islam neither favours nor disfavours women by counting women’s witness half of men’s witness. Do I favour women if I count women’s physical strength half of men’s physical strength in a wrestling competition and let two women fight against a man? I think I am not favouring women here, instead I am doing what is right. Women supporters who believe men and women have equal physical strength should be happy about my decision of letting two women fight against a man. This is because if men and women have equal physical strength, then it is an advantage for two women to fight against one man. The Quran 2:282 talks about intellectual fighting, not physical fighting. Debtor’s witnesses will intellectually fight creditor’s witnesses and lawyers in the court. Islam makes it right by letting two women intellectually fight against one man.
Quran says to get two female witnesses so that if
one female witness goes astray, the other female witness can remind her. Why
does it always have to be a female witness to get the other female witness back
on the right track? Cannot a male witness guide a female witness if she goes
astray? Islam separates men and women from working together. If a male witness
is the unmarriageable kin of a female witness, then they can group up and work
together. But if a male witness is a marriageable kin of a female witness, then
they can’t group up and work together. When God commands us, he considers about
all possible barriers that we may face while carrying out his commandments.
Peter: Correct me if I misunderstood but you admitted
that women are less intelligent than men. This proves Islam is an anti-feminist
religion.
Abdullah: If you can prove that women are more
intelligent than men, then Islam is anti-feminist. But if I can prove that
women are less intelligent than men, then Islam is not anti-feminist. Will
anyone call you an anti-feminist if you say men are physically stronger than
women? No, because it’s true that men are physically stronger than women. This
means you are not an anti-democratic person if you speak “truth” about
democracy’s weakness.
Note that I am not saying women are “dumb”. What I
am saying is men are “more intelligent” than women. Men have always been
dominated women. This proves men are more intelligent than women. Note that men
don’t dominate women with their superior physical strength. We know that
intelligence is greater than physical strength which is why human beings
dominate elephants. Men dominate women with their superior intelligence. What’s
the proof that men dominate women? Well, to be honest with you, if you keep
your eyes shut, you will not see any proof. You need to open your eyes and look
around for proof. Women have always been complained that men dominate them. Feminist
movements or women’s liberation movements prove men dominate women.
Note that I do not support men’s domination over women. Men should not take advantage of women’s less intelligence and dominate them. If we follow Islam, men’s domination over women will end. Islam treats men and women based on substantive (real) equality. For example, it is not substantive equality if the government pass a law saying any citizen who sleeps in the street will be arrested. This is because a citizen who has a home will probably never sleep in the street but a homeless citizen obviously will. It is more likely that a homeless citizen will sleep in the street due to poverty than a citizen who owns a house. It is more likely that a female witness will go astray than a male witness. Therefore, it is substantive equality if we let two women intellectually fight against one man.
Note that I do not support men’s domination over women. Men should not take advantage of women’s less intelligence and dominate them. If we follow Islam, men’s domination over women will end. Islam treats men and women based on substantive (real) equality. For example, it is not substantive equality if the government pass a law saying any citizen who sleeps in the street will be arrested. This is because a citizen who has a home will probably never sleep in the street but a homeless citizen obviously will. It is more likely that a homeless citizen will sleep in the street due to poverty than a citizen who owns a house. It is more likely that a female witness will go astray than a male witness. Therefore, it is substantive equality if we let two women intellectually fight against one man.
Peter: You said men are more intelligent than
women. This is not true. Women are more intelligent than men. We have female
scientists, doctors, engineers, lawyers, accountants, architects, and so on.
Statistics found that more women graduate from schools than men. Often women
score higher than men in IQ tests. Also, you said men dominate women. This is
not true either. Women control their household matters, not men.
Abdullah: I never said women are dumb so they
can’t be scientists, doctors, engineers, lawyers, accountants, and architects.
I said men are more intelligent than women. You said more women graduate from
school than men. Statistics found that women take their academic life way more seriously
than men. If equal intellectual effort is made by both men and women, men accomplish
more than women do. You said sometimes women score higher than men in IQ tests.
Please make a note that good memory and devotion plays bigger role in getting
good grade at school and in IQ tests than your intelligence. Most of the exams
and IQ tests require you to recollect materials more than to apply materials.
Scientists say the most important thing needed to apply knowledge and skills is rationality. Emotion works as a negative factor on rationality. Scientists have found that women are more emotional than men. British feminist scientist Professor Susan Adele Greenfield conducted a research study to find out if women are less intelligent than men or vice versa. She found out that “women seem to function less 'mindfully' than men or, putting it less euphemistically, less 'intelligently'”. She said “the more 'emotion' you experience, the less 'mind' you have.” Sahih Bukhari 6:301 says women have
deficiency in عَقْلٍ. If you translate the Arabic word عَقْلٍ
using google translation, it says عَقْلٍ can either mean ‘mind’ or ‘intellect’
or ‘reason’.
Scientists say the most important thing needed to apply knowledge and skills is rationality. Emotion works as a negative factor on rationality. Scientists have found that women are more emotional than men. British feminist scientist Professor Susan Adele Greenfield conducted a research study to find out if women are less intelligent than men or vice versa. She found out that “women seem to function less 'mindfully' than men or, putting it less euphemistically, less 'intelligently'”. She said “the more 'emotion' you experience, the less 'mind' you have.”
What does the word “intelligence” mean? Intelligence
means the ability to ACQUIRE and APPLY knowledge and skills. Women are not poorer at acquiring knowledge than
men. But obviously they are poorer at applying knowledge than men. Women are
better in social science than applied science. Since both “acquiring knowledge”
and “applying knowledge” make up the adjective “intelligence”, we can say that
men are more intelligent than women.
References:
Sahih Bukhari, Volume
1, Book 6, Number 301:
حَدَّثَنَا
سَعِيدُ بْنُ أَبِي مَرْيَمَ، قَالَ أَخْبَرَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ جَعْفَرٍ، قَالَ
أَخْبَرَنِي زَيْدٌ ـ هُوَ ابْنُ أَسْلَمَ ـ عَنْ عِيَاضِ بْنِ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ،
عَنْ أَبِي سَعِيدٍ الْخُدْرِيِّ، قَالَ خَرَجَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه
وسلم فِي أَضْحًى ـ أَوْ فِطْرٍ ـ إِلَى الْمُصَلَّى، فَمَرَّ عَلَى النِّسَاءِ
فَقَالَ " يَا مَعْشَرَ النِّسَاءِ تَصَدَّقْنَ، فَإِنِّي أُرِيتُكُنَّ
أَكْثَرَ أَهْلِ النَّارِ ". فَقُلْنَ وَبِمَ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ قَالَ
" تُكْثِرْنَ اللَّعْنَ، وَتَكْفُرْنَ الْعَشِيرَ، مَا رَأَيْتُ مِنْ نَاقِصَاتِ
عَقْلٍ وَدِينٍ أَذْهَبَ لِلُبِّ الرَّجُلِ الْحَازِمِ مِنْ إِحْدَاكُنَّ
". قُلْنَ وَمَا نُقْصَانُ دِينِنَا وَعَقْلِنَا يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ
قَالَ " أَلَيْسَ شَهَادَةُ الْمَرْأَةِ مِثْلَ نِصْفِ شَهَادَةِ الرَّجُلِ
". قُلْنَ بَلَى. قَالَ " فَذَلِكَ مِنْ نُقْصَانِ عَقْلِهَا،
أَلَيْسَ إِذَا حَاضَتْ لَمْ تُصَلِّ وَلَمْ تَصُمْ ". قُلْنَ بَلَى.
قَالَ " فَذَلِكَ مِنْ نُقْصَانِ دِينِهَا ".
Source: http://sunnah.com/bukhari/6/
ISLAM-WEEK 4
ReplyDelete01-Muslim females, including minors as young as 12, were repeatedly raped
02-ISlam allows the rape of infidels around the world
03-Rotherham Muslim rape-gang member Umar Razaq
04-Muslim socieites have the highest rape scales in the world
05-Iraqis muslims” Brutally Rape Colorado Woman.
06-Hindu girl raped and killed in Islamic Pakistan
07-Islam is rooted in sponging on slaves and rapetivism & prevails because of sex
08-Muslim Man Found Guilty of Murdering His Non-Muslim Wife
09-Emira, who says she was one of the 10 women who escaped rape
10-Islamic countries usually consist of burning churches
11-UK: Another Muslim rape gang convicted, targeted teens
12-The council in May last declared that DNA test results are not acceptable as primary evidence in cases of rape
13-Christians slaughtered for refusing to convert to Islam, and countless abducted for ransom or rape
14-Sexual abuse and rape certainly should not be discounted, as these have been the lot of thousands of women abducted by U.S.-sponsored “freedom fighters
15-American Muslim Stabs Wife’s Neck 30 Times, For Not Being Muslim
16- Iraqi immigrant on trial in brutal Muslim gang rape.
17-Seven Islamic extremists will be free to walk the streets with impunity when their court ..... Birmingham, was found guilty of blackmail and 12 charges of rape.
18-Syrian Mufti's aide gives Army permission to rape female captives.
19- Morocco makes major reform to rape law
You gave a big list which is very tiny if compared with crime committed by secularist Christian countries. For example:
DeleteSaudi Arabia's crime rate index is 31.74 in 2013. On the other hand, the USA's crime rate index is 53.44 in 2013. welcome to the real world, son.
http://www.numbeo.com/crime/rankings_by_country.jsp
This comment has been removed by the author.
ReplyDeleteAddressed to Abdullah(of the emails) and all who think like him. Allah has made people with different levels of intelligence adequate for the lives they lead (as Allah knows best), whether they are male or female. To say men are more intelligent than women is a lie(which is haram) and offensive to all womankind, it is also an attempt to opress women in a way(also haram). Nowhere in the Quran is it mentioned that men are more intelligable than women, to say so is an insult to the the truth and the word of God. Fear Allah, don't gloat about being a man because in some delusional way you think it makes you better than women, you can only be better by the amount of your good deeds, your virtue, and your morality. I'm saying this for your own good, and because your words worry me. Only in God's truth will you find peace. Do an extensive research of the hadith you read before you mis-interprete it to your advantage. All PEOPLE are born equal, they are only distinguished by their deeds which decide their fates. Allah knows best. Having too much pride and believing you are better than others is a sin in itself. A true Muslim only does that which takes him/her nearer to Jannah.
ReplyDeleteActually nowhere does that poor guy abdullah say that men are more intelligent than women. please don't blame him.
DeleteThis comment has been removed by the author.
ReplyDelete
ReplyDeleteنقدم لكم افضل شركة بالرياض شركه الحمد للنظافه العامه بالرياض حيث لدي عمالنا العديد من الخيرات في هذا المجال ليس عليك سوي الاتصال بنا
شركة نظافة عامة بالرياض